Immigration to B.C., Canada, with Tips for Employers Hiring Foreign Workers - with Gabriel Leal Vazquez

Bernie Chats with Gabriel Leal Vazquez of Pathways Immigration & Recruitment Canada, providing insights about immigrating to Canada and British Columbia.

If you’re an employer considering hiring a foreign worker, residing in Canada or abroad, there are also some great insights for you.

The conversation is in English, and we throw in a few sentences and insights in French and Spanish for those members of our audience.

Topics, full transcript & timeline is listed Below.

Get the Podcast version on the B.C. Jobs Page on JobsinCanada.com: https://jobsincanada.com/provinces/british-columbia-jobs-bc/

YouTube Transcript:

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tips for getting jobs in Canada and immigrating to Canada as well as insights for employers who are
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considering hiring foreign workers although the conversation is mostly in English you can’t expect a few sentences
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in French and in Spanish now let’s get right into it
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hey everybody Welcome to Bernie chats we’re recording this one for jobsincanada.com and with us today we’re
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joined by Gabrielle Leal Vasquez who runs Pathways immigration and recruiting
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Canada he’s based in New Westminster British Columbia hi Bernie thank you
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thank you for inviting me it’s a pleasure to be with you everyone and to talk a little bit about these topics
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that is how to find a job in Canada and how to get a work permit exciting to be here sounds great and I could have
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mentioned an introduction you were you were raised in Mexico I I was raised in Mexico I came to Canada in 2012 with my
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family with my wife back then great so it’s always interesting to hear a little bit of the the background and
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you’ve traveled a fair amount around the world it sounds like we have something in common we both speak French and and I
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speak a little bit of Spanish
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is
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so everybody we just said that Gabrielle can serve people in French and as you
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can see he’s got a good command of the language so it’s something to uh to keep in mind as well so what part of that
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we’re going to leave in I have no idea but it’s there and certainly so you have a fair amount
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of clients coming from I would imagine all over the world but mostly from Latin America yeah most of them are from Latin
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America and that’s mostly because of the clients that I have had they refer more clients and they are from those
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countries right and that’s how it has become and I have good Partnerships with some people in these countries that
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that’s how we have been growing and it’s my natural kind of say a market if you
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wanna meaning like that a little bit of me I’m a regulated Canadian immigration
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consultant so what I do is I help people finding information about how to come to
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Canada and how to do a work permit I do all the applications I’ll do Consulting and that’s a mostly what it’s my job
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with the people that seek to come to Canada and now are you helping both the job Seekers and employers as well yes there
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are some employers that contact us because they do have a person that wants
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and can do the job and they are looking how can they give a work permit to this person so we can work for either the
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employee the job Seeker or the employer so why don’t we start a little bit with the employer we’ll talk about that a
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little bit that side of things and then we can transition to the job Seeker side
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and of course you’re based in British Columbia so we can kind of have a British Columbian flavor and talk a
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little bit about British Columbia so if somebody is an employer somebody listening to this as an employer and
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right now from what I’m understanding and what we’re hearing in the news it’s very challenging to find the right
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employees for the right fit in certain positions in Canada and my understanding
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is that the doors are a little bit more open right now to to foreign job Seekers
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or at least in the mindset of employers that they’re willing to look a little bit more
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outside of their normal scope is that is that what you’re getting as well and there is yes indeed there is a huge need
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of uh workers right the general way to bring a worker is to do what it’s called
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an lmia which is a labor marketing practice assessment so this is the norm and this is what most of the employers
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know so some of the employers are not aware how to bring someone they don’t have really an idea and that’s a they
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are different ways depending the position they want to offer one of them is a labor marketing assessment where
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the employer has to show that they did an effort to hire permanent residents or
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citizens so this is a little bit uh challenging but in some positions is you
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just have to prove it and it takes about amount to three to four months two so so
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if I can if I can help unpack that a little bit the employer has to
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um has to show that they’ve tried to hire a Canadian so that they’re not
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taking a job away from a Canadian that Canadian is ready here and willing and
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able to to fill that’s correct correct what other kinds of considerations do
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employers in British Columbia specifically and what are their kinds of assistance is available or programs are
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available for Employers in Canada in British Columbia to make it easier for
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them or or what kind of concerns should they watch out for okay so that’s a a
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lot of yeah it is I don’t know one thing because there are several ways and everything it’s a related to two things
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what is the position that they are offering and the citizenship of the employee or the permanent residence
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because we have this great option and that are with countries that Canada has
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an agreement right and counties such as Mexico the U.S Chile Peru Korea Japan
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Australia there is a trade agreement that it’s makes the employer exempt of
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requesting an lmia okay oh so these are a good good tool that mostly most of
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players doesn’t know and if they seek employees from this or job Seekers from these countries they save a lot of time
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and money and and then make it easier so that’s interesting
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um Canada when I studied foreign trade Canada had five International Trade Partners uh and that wasn’t that long
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ago it was about 12 years ago and now it’s there’s quite a few more and I
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believe Colombia has a Free Trade Agreement now right Colombia and with the European Union as well right that’s
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for the whole country is an agreement that Canada has with Discounters and each agreement has its special uh
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professions right technicians that they can be a part of this it’s not everyone
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it’s not always workers yeah and that’s the part I was thinking about so that’s applicable to uh all of Canada and
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what’s an example of some some of the kinds of occupations or workers that would fall under that category okay we
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can talk a little bit per country because it’s a important to make the
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difference and it’s country specific right country specific and just a legal disclaimer that’s this information that
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we are sharing is only for general purposes right it’s not intended or replacing a legal consultation if they
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want to seek more information all the whole uh way of how the program works
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they should seek a consultation right let me unpack that a little bit for you as well I’m just going to add and
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reiterate that so so the information that we’re talking about today is in
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generalities and nothing is specifically applicable to any particular case it’s just a general broad understanding so
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that people listening can kind of get an idea oh that’s the way it might work in my case okay please go ahead so for
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Mexico and the United States we have the kuzma right it is the the agreement that
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previously was called the NAFTA it covers 63 professions some of them the most common or popular are accountants
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Architects Engineers computer systems analysts industrial graphic designers
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geologists chemists a lot of occupations that are scientific related so if a
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person is offered a job offer for this position for a Canadian employer and
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this person is a Mexican citizen or a citizen from the U.S they are exempt of this lmia and it could take about two to
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four weeks to get a work permit if everything is done properly oh wow
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and that’s in a case where the employer has already identified the employee or
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somehow they’ve connected they’re aware of each other correct otherwise otherwise an employer would
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have to go through some kind of a recruiting process or an employee would have to somehow find an employer that is
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willing to go through the process how how would that work uh there are different ways sometimes
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the most common is people that are already in Canada like students they in
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their part where they work part-time their employer says oh you know I would like to hire you full-time and is that
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possible and if this job Falls Within These professions then we do this work permit it’s the most common way for
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people that are outside of Canada it happens as well but it’s a lot more of work right they do need to have some
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skills that are interesting for the recruiters in Canada
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and then they can introduce how can this employer obtain a work permit for them
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mostly is the work of the job Seeker to show the employer if the employer is seeking this kind of professionals from
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these countries then they do need to look for someone but it’s knowledgeable about these countries
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so there are already people here who might not be citizens but but have uh
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student visas and other other legal ways that they would be here and these people
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uh if they have the qualifications if it’s a fit with employer the employer could do that more easily than somebody
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from out of the country and skip the labor market impact assessment that’s a big thing so that’s for citizens of
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Mexico and the United States for citizens of Colombia and Peru it’s a little bit different most of the
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professions are included except some of them right so it’s more open and the
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ones that are excluded so when we say a profession in this agreement is what we
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call a knock a or zero right it’s professional level or managerial level and some of the occupations that are
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excluded are those that are within the health education and Social Services right so and there are some technicians
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that are included like mechanical engineering Technologies and technicians industrial engineering graphing
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designers interior designers and one important is chefs right so this is a
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little bit different how it changes a little bit when content to another we have also for Chilean Chilean citizens
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or permanent residents from Chile also from Colombia permanent residents are included which is a big big thing for
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some uh for chile is similar to the kuzma for regarding professions
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okay and so you mentioned chefs so one of the things that I was going to ask
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next and maybe this Chef kind of kind of segues into it is what if somebody is
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not a professional maybe they’re a little younger maybe they’re thinking of going to University but they haven’t done it yet
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um you know what Pathways can they take nice pun right what Pathways can they
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take and and and also um a chef seems like a natural one because somebody
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could plan their career as partly what it would take to get into Canada
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and live in Canada uh legally correct so the person that it’s uh outside of
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Canada looking to come and end up working they have the opportunity to come and study they can study a program
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for one year or two years and this program if it’s eligible for a post-related work permit once they
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complete their studies full-time studies they will get a work permit that can be up to three years within these three
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years they have to find a job that will give them uh that is an oxy rate if they
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intend to become a permanent residence in the future so that’s one of the easiest ways for
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some to come and have the opportunity to have an international experience to have a diploma from Canada that is very
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important for the labor market back in these countries as well so you are winning two things in international
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diploma and then work experience in Canada great
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great and and in British Columbia here do we have any programs that might stand
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out over and above the national programs or any initiatives for
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job Seekers and employers what’s what’s the best pathway there and and what’s the best opportunity for employers
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correct we have what is called the the bcpnp is the provincial nominee program
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for British Columbia every province has their own programs in in British Columbia it has two
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interesting ones that for this subject for a couple actually one is for skilled
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workers right the skilled worker is that one that has two years work experience in the profession that is being offered
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how it works they need a job offer as well uh from the employer and with the
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qualifications of the job seeker and the job offer we do an assessment and it
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will give you a point right let’s say 60 points 80 points depending their English
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level their education their work experience their salary their location of the job and we submit a profile to
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the vcpnp as a skill worker the person can be outside of Canada the employer
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has to demonstrate that they were not able to find a uh our Canadian or permanent resident in
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Canada is not with the same it’s not as strict as a labor marketing
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impact assessment but it’s a little bit similar this is a route towards permanent resident right so once this
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person creates his profile they could be invited by The Province they can be nominated by The Province and they will
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get a work letter a work permit and a letter that will help them to obtain a
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work permit and then become a permanent residence mm-hmm
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so that’s for for skilled workers that are not uh or that are already in Canada
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either way it’s different profiles but there are another options for healthcare workers for international graduates uh
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International postgraduates and entry level and semi-skilled workers so it’s different areas depending the profiles
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of each one and what about the caregivers you’re saying Caregivers for
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caregivers there’s a pilot program right which is a
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couple one or two years is a little bit challenging nowadays because it’s uh only offering about 2500 uh
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places for caregivers and 2500 for for
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um seniors Caregivers for not for caregivers for the elderly okay so it’s
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it’s already backed up they uh have more than what they can afford to give the these places this is a program for the
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permanent resident as well so that’s that’s how it’s all demanding sometimes it might take them one or two years to
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be able to come with an open work permit and there are then some revisions to this program we will have to see in the
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future how it goes next year on the employer side are most of these Care Homes day cares families
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they’re mostly families yeah so it’s a family that needs someone to seek after
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their kid or after their parents let’s say and they they have someone that
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meets their qualifications it’s a little bit uh now the person that is wants to apply for this program has to show that
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has a certain level of English and that has a post-secondary diploma
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okay great they have these and the employer gives them a job offer then they can they could apply they need to
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meet other requirements but they could apply and then they need to wait probably a year or two years to have an open work permit come to Canada or open
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work permit further Administration come to Canada and work as such once they get 24 months of work experience they could
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become a fermented resin okay great and so I I’m thinking there’s
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probably a lot of confusion what I see anyway running jobs in canada.com is
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um there seems to be confusion among a lot of people out there about you know should I just take a flight to Canada
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should I just come to Canada and find an employer who’s going to hire me um you know what do you recommend there
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because I’m sensing I’m guessing that you’re going to say that they should stay in their country until they know
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what they’re doing blah blah blah what do you recommend to somebody who really doesn’t have a clue maybe they’re young maybe they don’t have a serious
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um uh credentials in any given profession what what do you recommend for somebody
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like that yeah it’s it’s always a good question and it’s a very common question
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and it’s hard to answer because you need to know the person and you need to know yourself like what who are you how do
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you work what motivates you are you going to do your job looking for a job in your home country or you will you be
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doing that better in Canada and what will that cost you one the most important thing what do you need to work
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in Canada and that’s the language right and yes there are some jobs that you could do with minimal uh knowledgeable
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English but in general that’s going to help you to move forward to have a good interview so you have to be studying
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English and it’s not enough what we could say I I I’m a profession in English in my country once you come
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to Canada in an English environment it’s not the same so the first thing uh
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reads magazines make a subscription to a newsletter or news magazine paper in
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Canada so you get to know more the language in Canada and get to know more the kids or the businesses what’s going
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on over here that will help you to have a topic into an interview that’s the first thing right and the second
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what do you want to do in Canada what kind of job and you have to realize that
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you will have to try to look for a job that is not exactly the same that you might be doing in your country you have
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to start two or three steps before so you can get there later on right so
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you might need to get an entry level once the employer knows you and they know that you know how to do
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the job you could be promoted or you have experience in Canada and you can look for another job that is more
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towards your professional objective right when you’re saying look for another job you mean in a given amount
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of time with an employer right like you probably have to be with with your your initial employer you you might you might
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have to be there for how long let’s say at least a year because less than a year
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sometimes doesn’t look that great right so once you have a year of work experience you’re good with your
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employer and you can you have some enough experience in the job market in Canada and then you can try to look for
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something else right sometimes it’s easier to find a job if you have a job and the first thing also what you were
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talking come here or stay if you come to Canada most of the work
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to find a job is online right and you have the resources and it’s sometimes easier doing the looking for a job in
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here because you have you can go to some centers like where we see centers and they help you find a job to permanent
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residents and citizens but it has something also for people that holds a work permit and they have a lot of
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resources on the libraries you can access all this also in Internet so
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one big tool is LinkedIn right that’s how you can do your networking find
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people that have a job that you’re looking for and ask them for an info
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view right just ask them general questions about their job their company try not to be too needy we call it like
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that don’t be too needy just in a friendly way share your experiences in your country ask them for uh insights
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about this role how challenging is it for someone but the first important thing is the job that you’re looking for
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is it regulated or not and what does this mean regulated
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profession is like a nurse like an engineer like an architect if you need to sign document for an engineer if you
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need to sign documents like diagrams or things like this you have to uh it’s a
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regulated occupation but if you don’t need to sign documents as an engineer then you can find a job as a search
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right so that’s the first thing get to know what you want to do if that profession is regulated or not and find
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a body that regulates your your occupation and you can connect with this body in
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Canada and they can help you find a way how to become an engineer in Canada you
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might not get there but you will know the paths and you will get some courses and you will get more insights and
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probably more things will come your way regarding your job search
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well so uh one thing one thing that we should probably qualify and correct me if I’m wrong but when you say people
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doing a search here in Canada you’re talking about people who’ve come in Legally
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they have some kind of a Visa some kind of a student visa
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something like that you have to be you have to have entered legally to Canada as a visitor as a student as a worker
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but if you are not legally in Canada you cannot look for anything right you don’t
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have a future in Canada you have to restore your status or go back to your country and come back
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right and and so you have to uh the bottom line is if you’re not here
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legally then none of these resources are going to open their doors to you correct
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and if an employer happens and interviews you they will stop once they
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know this situation because they won’t be able to move forward most of the times right depending a specific
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situation we have to analyze a specific situation right of course Very broadly there might be cases where we can do a
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restoration if someone lost their status because they miss the time to extend their status or something happen right
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sure sure that was a great program like that in last year that they extended these 90
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days that you have to extend your status for up to a year a year and a half that is gone now so it’s very important for
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everyone that is in Canada to be careful of their status exploration and extend
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it right okay yeah so you have to do your homework um so one of the things that you
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mentioned before was about speaking English uh maybe you could just speak a little bit about the French side of the
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equation um because obviously there’s programs or people people have
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um uh similar entry access with French as well well French speakers have a lot
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of uh have good opportunities they say a program for francophones that make it
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easier to get a work permit also to get a permanent residence right or are
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qualified towards Quebec to find get a permanent residence as well so those we need to know the specifics they have to
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find an employer that needs a professional in French outside of in
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Quebec or outside of Quebec it doesn’t matter it’s a federal program yeah and that’s a an exception to the
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lmia similar to the trade agreements in that regard are there any categories of workers that
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are at higher Demand right now or that that you’re finding employers are asking about or that you’re finding or getting
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in easier yes yeah well a big one is cooks and a lot of needs for Cooks in
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restaurants Hospitality needs a lot of workers and that’s a uh I won’t say an
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easy one but it’s pretty common it’s happening often right and so what kind
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of experience and qualifications are they looking for are they looking for uh you
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know two or three years experience or are they looking for culinary certification what are they looking for
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all kinds sometimes they just need one to two years of work experience so that
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would be a minimum is a couple of years experience would be yeah the starting point sometimes it could be even one
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year as long as you have that experience and you can prove that and the employer is okay with what you know
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so would you think that if if I’m let’s say I’m uh Carlos and I’m in Colombia
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and and I think you know it’d be nice to go to Canada and and see if I could make
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a goal of it there um you know would it make sense if he’s 21 years old
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let’s say to say okay I’m gonna I’m going to see how far I can get in the restaurant industry in Colombia and then
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I’m going to apply to come to Canada find an employer and
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yeah that’s doable it’s easier and better if they can come and study here
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and then find a job right really to be honest with you finding a job being outside of Canada without a status in
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Canada it’s hard it’s tough that an employer will open their doors for an interview and then do all this process
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unless you are a good reference or they know you somehow so the easiest way is
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to come to Canada is study a program get at work the employer will look for you and then they will help you out with
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their work permit that’s what it’s most of the times Times
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Really few times is when the employer didn’t know them and they are outside of Canada so probably a good objective is
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to say okay I’m I’m Carlos in Colombia and and what I think I want to do is go
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study culinary arts in Canada or take a uh uh
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college level course in in food preparation correct that that’s that’s a
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good start sometimes they can come just let’s say for a study English six months sure weeks they cannot work but they are
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in Canada they’re improving the language they can get around and they can ask for for interviews they they are they are
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allowed to seek work they are not allowed to work so once the employer knows them and then they say okay
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I I will give you the opportunity to offer you yes then let’s do this lmia
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and then they it will take some time but it’s easier when the person the employer
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connects with them yeah so if you’re here studying and and you meet a restaurant owner who likes you then
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that’s a good thing correct yeah that’s that’s a good step
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um okay great well that’s great Gabrielle thanks so much for joining us um before we go do you want to say a few
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things in Spanish do you want to can I should I ask you a couple of questions in Spanish
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job posting perfecto gracias Gabrielle is there
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anything else you would like to say in English or in Spanish before we sign off well it was a pleasure to be here I
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really hope that this information helps you somehow in your pathway to Canada it’s a really beautiful country it’s not
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easy you have to put time on work and once you it’s it makes our sometimes or
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two or three years or more yeah it’s a big dream for a lot of people and you
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know sometimes what I tell them as well it probably is not for everyone but also you will never know if you don’t try it
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and it’s always a good experience and it it matures yourselves person as a
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professional for sure it’s always a challenge but then it’s very important to be well informed and know what you
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might face it make it easier to move forward you can come back and you will
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have more experience whatever it was you you’re experience in Canada if you didn’t succeed
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you will have more tools to go back and the experience that you earn will definitely help you in whatever it is in
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back in your country as a person as a family as a professional absolutely just
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just having uh more advanced English and the scriptural experience you know it’s
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just a culture experience because it really a lot of work in or in Latin
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America it’s with another companies and then exposure to so many
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countries in just Canada so many nationalities and cultures it opens up a
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lot of a vision and if someone is an entrepreneur even better yes for sure for sure
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that’s great it’s interesting you know it’s a life souvenir forever like if you
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go sometimes for a trip you already have a nice souvenir for your life when you experience coupled months or a year you
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will remember forever it’s beautiful I like it living here I’ve been living here for eight years so if it’s your
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objective you have to work on it nothing is for free and it’s it’s a long way ahead but
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you can reach it and once you reach it it will be rewarding yeah it’s
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definitely um uh have to expect work and and uh to
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put in the effort and and work your way up because usually you’re not going to start at the top unless you are a highly
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uh trained professional correct correct um so with that Gabrielle how can people
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reach you it’s probably a good idea if people are trying to sort this all out that they speak with a professional and
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and get an idea of some I guess grounded reality from somebody
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with some experience and and obviously the qualifications sure they can send us
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an email to info patsimmigration.com probably you can share their the email it’s sure info
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info immigration.com thanks so much for doing this Gabrielle
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it’s good to be here with you it was a nice connection yeah it’s awesome good I really
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appreciate it I hope I think there’s a lot of good information there so I look forward to uh keeping in touch and
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thanks so much for doing this taking the time in the evening here anytime Bernie I’m a pleasure to help
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okay gracias ciao
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